Comments on: Apollo + Artemis: these Greek twins have got to irk Microsoft

By: Mrinal Wadhwa

Mrinal Wadhwa — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 21:01:37 +0000

It’s now being revived as Merapi by Adam Flater and the guys http://adamflater.blogspot.com/2008/02/meet-merapi.html

By: V D

V D — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 20:56:52 +0000

Is this project dead? No real movement by the looks of it since April 2007

By: Mohammed Saleem

Mohammed Saleem — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 18:24:43 +0000

What is the status of this project? Its sounds interesting

By: Mrinal Wadhwa

Mrinal Wadhwa — Fri, 20 Apr 2007 15:59:27 +0000

Oh I’m watching the space very eagerly and with a lot of excitement.

You keep up the good work

By: Tony Hillerson

Tony Hillerson — Fri, 20 Apr 2007 15:38:04 +0000

Code generation is something we definitely want. We’ve got ideas for a few tools – like ant tasks or maven plugins and an eclipse plugin.

The next things on the list are new sample libraries, improvements to the core, and tutorials. Keep watching the space!

By: Mrinal Wadhwa

Mrinal Wadhwa — Fri, 20 Apr 2007 05:36:44 +0000

When I said convert, I presumed there might be some sort of a tool to generate stubs on the ActionScript side given a Java library …. I should start digging into the existing libraries .. that might help me get a better understanding …. meanwhile it would be great if you guys could post a small tutorial somewhere which explains step by step what to do if we have some Java code that we want to use inside of an Apollo application.

By: Tony Hillerson

Tony Hillerson — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 23:07:36 +0000

Hey Mrinal,

I think we’re on the same page about MS. We’re glad you’re interested. We do want it to compete with WPF – that’s exciting to us because we love the technologies involved. Artemis for .Net is a very interesting possibility because of some of the glaring omissions it sounds like Silverlight has.

As for converting libraries, that’s not what happens, you write a java part and an actionscript part. The Actionscript part (a .swc) is used at compile time, and the Java part is used at both runtime and compile time.

We know that documentation is important. Right now it’s a bit of a shoemaker’s children problem – we’re trying to develop the first libraries as proofs, and then next worrying about getting others developing libraries.

By: Mrinal Wadhwa

Mrinal Wadhwa — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 17:39:37 +0000

Hi Tony,

First of all … Artemis is an excellent idea and hats off to you guys for taking the initiative.

Secondly, I know Artemis is not about irking Microsoft or anyone else .. I just feel that it may do so as it opens up a brand new scope of competition for WPF. I do apologize if you feel that I’m spreading the wrong vibe. Artemis for .Net sounds equally exciting.

Since we’re on the topic … I have a question .. How exactly do I convert a Java library to an ActionScript library using Artemis? … I haven’t been able to find any documentation on this, and I’m sure everyone who is reading this article would be as interested in knowing about this as I am.

By: Tony Hillerson

Tony Hillerson — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 16:10:55 +0000

Yea, Adam came up with the idea for using sockets to communicate with Java. My contribution was calling it Artemis. We then joked that Adam was the father, and therefore Zeus. The problem is that that may somehow make me Leto. No comment.

Thanks for the coverage here, Mrinal. Just so it’s clear, we’re not about irking Microsoft – just about delivering what works best to the user (in this case end users and application developers). With the tags ’silverlight’ and ‘irking’ – wouldn’t it be nice if there were an Artemis for .Net? Hmm….